Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120
03/02/2023 01:00 PM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS
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| Start | |
| HJR4 | |
| HB76 | |
| Adjourn |
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| += | HJR 4 | TELECONFERENCED | |
| += | HB 76 | TELECONFERENCED | |
HB 76-PAY FOR AK DEFENSE FORCE
1:05:05 PM
CHAIR WRIGHT announced that the final order of business would be
HOUSE BILL NO. 76, "An Act relating to pay for the Alaska State
Defense Force; and providing for an effective date."
CHAIR WRIGHT indicated that there would need to be an update to
the title of the bill by adding "allowances", as recommended by
a drafter from Legislative Legal Services. He said that a copy
of the amendment was distributed to committee members.
1:06:12 PM
CHAIR WRIGHT moved to adopt Amendment 1, labeled 33-GH1579\A.1,
Radford, 2/28/23, which read:
Page 1, line 1, following "pay":
Insert "and allowances"
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW objected for the purposes of discussion.
1:06:27 PM
FORREST WOLFE, Staff, Representative Stanley Wright, Alaska
State Legislature, introduced Amendment 1 to HB 76 on behalf of
Representative Wright, prime sponsor. He stated that, since the
bill deals with the substantive issues of pay and allowances -
and there are statutory guidance and definitions for such terms
- Legislative Legal Services advised that the amendment is
needed in order for the title of the bill to reflect the
legislation's substance.
1:07:17 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked what the definition of "allowances"
is in this context.
1:07:35 PM
MR. WOLFE offered his understanding that the changes relate to
housing stipends, or per diem.
1:07:53 PM
CRAIG CHRISTENSEN, Deputy Commissioner, Office of the
Commissioner, Alaska Department Military and Veterans' Affairs,
answered that active-duty members have a base pay scale. In
addition to active-duty base pay, he said there are
"allowances", such as subsistence and basic housing. He said
that typically active-duty military see a lump sum in their
paychecks.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER questioned if the language in the
amendment was for housing in addition to pay, and whether it
will affect the fiscal note.
MR. CHRISTENSEN responded that Amendment 1 would not change the
fiscal note. He said the military pay scale is broken down to
basic allowance for subsistence and basic allowance for pay. He
explained that the military continues to use a specific pay
scale by statute and is also using that pay scale for housing
costs and food costs.
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER focused attention on page 1, lines 8 and
9 of HB 76. He paraphrased that the bill orders that organized
militia and Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF) would be paid the
same conditions as state officials and employees. He asked if
ASDF pay allowances would be indexed to state workers or active-
duty military.
MR. CHRISTENSEN responded by pointing members to the section of
HB 76 above the lines in question on page 1 that is talking
about pay, whereas the section below it is talking about
allowances. He said that the sentence to be changed addresses
both pay and allowances. He said that when HB 76 was drafted,
the bill should have been only addressing "allowances" in the
paragraph and addressing "pay" in the previous paragraph.
1:11:32 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 1:11 p.m. to 1:13 p.m.
1:13:55 PM
BOB ERNISSE, Director, Alaska Department of Military and
Veterans' Affairs, Division of Administrative Services,
explained that the allowance related statues refer to active-
duty members receiving them; an example is per-diem. In
response to a follow-up question, he confirmed that the member
would receive the same allowances as a state employee.
1:14:30 PM
The committee took an at-ease from 1:14 p.m. to 1:15 p.m.
1:15:11 PM
A roll call vote was taken. Representatives Shaw, Groh, Gray,
Saddler, and Wright voted in favor of Amendment 1. Therefore,
Amendment 1 was adopted by a vote of 5-0.
1:16:08 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER said he supports the bill and ASDF; he
offered his concern regarding ASDF and the potential for that
department to evolve into the National Guard. He said that his
intent was to not start the process of providing more pay and
benefits that would ordinarily go to the National Guard. He
continued to say that ASDF is a very good organization, has a
good mission, and fills an important niche.
1:17:04 PM
REPRESENTATIVE SHAW moved to report HB 76, as amended, out of
committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying
fiscal notes. There being no objection, CSHB 76 (MLV) was
reported out of the House Special Committee on Military and
Veterans' Affairs Committee.
1:17:31 PM
The committee took a brief at-ease at 1:17 p.m.
1:17:46 PM
CHAIR WRIGHT, reiterated that CSHB 76 (MLV) was reported out of
the House Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs
Committee.
| Document Name | Date/Time | Subjects |
|---|---|---|
| HB 76 Amendment A.1 2.28.23.pdf |
HMLV 3/2/2023 1:00:00 PM |
HB 76 |